Dual Characteristics of Nature

  • Dual Characteristics of Nature

    Posted by Lyn on April 12, 2024 at 3:26 am

    Romans 1:20 <sup> </sup>For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

    The primary dual characteristics of internal and external form define the type of being and are the more essential dual characteristics. For example Human Beings: Internal character is mind and external character is body. Animals have an animal mind and a body. Plants have a plant mind and body. Molecules have inherent nature and energy matter. etc. Then there are secondary dual characteristics like Humans are masculine (man) and femine (woman0 etc. What is God’s original internal character and God’s original external form? 💞</div>

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  • jayceeii

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    April 12, 2024 at 8:47 am

    Not sure where you got this translation but this one appears more cogent, from ESV:

    20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.

    The meaning then becomes wise ones would see evidence for a Creator in the biosphere and solar system. The excuse of those who cannot see this, becomes that they are unwise.

    The question revolves on a conception, that might be called an intuition at this point, of what kinds of things could really happen, and whether beautiful things happen on their own. Weirdly (to me), many Christians stand in a place saying they see God must be behind the beauty in the world, and yet can only conceive of magical modes of creation. My point is that to stand in this place may not necessarily be wisdom; instead flattery.

    LN: The primary dual characteristics of internal and external form define the type of being and are the more essential dual characteristics.

    JC: You can’t draw this from this verse. You must have drawn it from somewhere else. The Bible presents no existential paradigm for the human being, just Holy Spirit wind.

    LN: For example Human Beings: Internal character is mind and external character is body.

    JC: This is not from Christianity. You heard it somewhere else, possibly a philosophy class.

    LN: Animals have an animal mind and a body.

    JC: This is from your mind alone, without scriptural reference. If Hindus are right, then humans were also animals, meaning they may have dragged the animal mind with them.

    LN: Plants have a plant mind and body.

    JC: This is total speculation from your mind alone, unless you picked it up in a New Age blog. Why have you generated it? If you believe plants are alive, is your own life established?

    LN: Molecules have inherent nature and energy matter. etc.

    JC: Total speculation. And not interesting, compared to the descriptions physics gives.

    LN: Then there are secondary dual characteristics like Humans are masculine (man) and feminine (woman) etc.

    JC: Only you say this. And it isn’t clear you are saying much, just touching the surface. Most gurus say the Self has no sex. If it does, it means there are male and female souls.

    LN: What is God’s original internal character and God’s original external form?

    JC: The internal character of God cannot be known by souls who know their own internal character. To know the soul gives them insight only that there is such a thing as invisible spirit, but they also see the Creator of their spirits must have a Spirit radically beyond theirs. God has only one external form, appearing in the Incarnation, where He chooses.

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